New DNA posts

We have at least four new tests underway at present time, some real blockbusters!  (Some may be from Howard ((got to be careful as the lawyers are already looking for something to sue us over because we're getting two close and people are getting VERY nervous))  Keep close check on this post to get the latest! 


Maternal Mitochondrial from a suggested grand daughter of Howard Hughes and Jean Peters
Born in the Late 1980's.

HV1 16162G:

HV2 73G:
    152C:
    263G:
    309.1C:
    Blank:
    315.1C:

Paternal Nuclear: From a suggested son of HowardHughes and Jean Peters born around Spring 1954 to Spring 1955
System Locus Reference Swab
D3S1358 14, 16:
THO1 9, 9.3:
D21S11 29, 31:
D18S51 14, 15:
PENTA E 7, 13:
D5S818 9, 12:
D13S317 8, 11:
D7S820 8, 10:
D16S539 12, 13:
CSF1PO 10, 12;
PENTA D 12:
Amelogenin X, Y:
vWA 16, 17:
D8S1179 13, 14:
TPOX 8:
FGA 20, 23:

Paternal Nuclear from possible daughter of Howard Hughes born in 1956 in Houston, Texas.

Genetic Marker:           Allele A                      Allele 2

D3S1179                    10                               12
D21S11                      28                               29
D7S820                        9                                11
CSF1PO                    11                               12
D3S1358                    15                               17
THO1                           7                                 8
D13S317                    10                               13
D16S539                    11                               13
D2S1338                    23
D19S433                    12                               14
vWA                           16
TPOX                           8
D18S51                      18
AMEL                          X
D5S818                      12
FGA                            22.2                            25


Please come forward if you have info. we're begging you! You could save lives!


One niggling thought keeps surfacing: In the past Paul Winn and Geoff Schumacher were ever ready to attack and ridicule anyone who gave any thought on Hughes they hadn't pre approved.  (According to Doug Wellman and Mark Musick, Paul has called up both for a royal session of chewing on them). A reputable source tells me that Geoff Schumacher read an advance copy of Boxes, and commented on an interesting read, but advised the authors not to publish! 
 

Are the Lummis/Gano Group playing a rotten fruit game?

A rotten fruit game is where a guy occupies and claims an orchard and by the time the legal work is over all the fruit is rotten!  Are they trying to spoil everything that an heir would inherit if they get sued?  Kind of looks like it from this blogger's viewpoint.  Let me cite you the recent events that lead me to ask these questions!  
1.  Rumor has it that the Hughes Medical Institute lost 3-5 billion in bad investments. My question is, considering the involvement of the principles in the financial markets, was this money really lost or did it simply change from Institute control to private control?  If lost, then they should be removed for lousy investment judgment.  Whatever the final destination, regulators should investigate to see what happened to these funds in a trust that was set up to be tax free and to see if the directors of the institute are working to finance research or to enrich themselves, in my opinion. I'm calling for an IRS investigation!  It is my contention that a "commercial" tax free status is fundamentally different than a "religious" tax free status.  Basic federal law protects religion and it's universal actions, but a "commercial" tax free status that is getting the free use of what otherwise would be tax funds, has an obligation to use those funds for the benefit of the citizenry that exempted those taxes. 

In other words, if you say, "I should be tax free because I'm using these funds for the benefit of US citizens", then using those funds to educate, support, finance research or build labs for foreign nationals, violates the basic premise of that tax free status.  It is unreasonable to expect that any new Institute would get such status with such a policy as funding foreign nationals!  Therefore it is logical that to instigate a policy of funding foreign nationals with "commercial tax exempt" funds would void a tax exempt status of an existing organization from the first distribution of funds to a foreign national, in my opinion. This is a public claim that I was the first person to realize this dodge of taxes and am entitled to the rewards of that perception as provided by IRS regulations.  Here is a news article to support this point: I have copied the first 2 paragraphs or so and included the url so visitors can go check for themselves:



August 04, 2011
New Fellowship Funds Research for 48 International Graduate Students
A new fellowship program from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) will enable 48 exceptionally talented graduate students from 22 countries to devote their full attention to research at a critical time during their professional development as scientists.
Offered for the first time this year, the International Student Research Fellowships will support science and engineering students during their third, fourth, and fifth year of graduate school.
http://www.hhmi.org/news/intlresearchfellows20110804.html

Please note that this is from the HHMI web site and it is our contention that financing foreign students with tax money meant for US citizens, voids their tax free status! 

2.  News reports show that the official position of the Hughes Medical Institute  is to increase (as in get as much out of the country as possible) their "support" for foreign researchers.  Note that this money and it's eventual destiny will be beyond US regulation.  Since this Medical Institute was set up to finance research and considering: part of the money is from unpaid/exemption taxes that is supplied by US citizens and the US is in dire need of internal investment, I call for the IRS to investigate and determine if this policy violates their tax exempt status. In my opinion they violated their tax exempt status when the first grant was made to a foreign national for research and the location of the research is immaterial.  Avoided taxes are citizen funds and using them to finance foreign nationals in their research or education is in my opinion fraud and missuse of tax exempt status.
3.  Fred Lummis has resigned from Cardtronics, suddenly and without explanation.  (Is he trying to isolate himself any financial shenanigans that Cardtronics may have been involved in?).
 4.  The heirs (essentially the Lummis/Gano faction) agreed to 9.4% of what the final settlement was appraised for a short time ago, according to news reports.  This fire sale is kinda unbelievable on the surface and this observer wonders what kind of deals were made below the surface (especially when the new HHC headquarters is in Dallas), only a few blocks from George Bush's residence. In my opinion, this deal stinks to high heaven of an effort to lower the value of any assets that are reported in the public press as being received by the heirs. One wonders why?

How Howard Handled the Baby Business??

HowardRHughesDNA@yahoo.com, HowardHughesDNA@gmail.com I have recently had discussions with three families who claim that Howard fathered a baby in by one of their relatives and a disturbing theme has emerged.  Seems a pattern was seen in the how the day of birth was handled,
1.  The  pregnant woman was seen by a Dr and given shot/s (presumably to initiate labor, knock out mental facilities and also an amnesiac) to control how much the woman perceived of the event.
2. Each woman woke up the morning after with news of a. "you baby died and we disposed of it", "here is your wrinkle free baby who also happens to have a suntan," or "your baby was badly brain damaged and we put it in a intensive care facility but it won't live."
3.  Could all three women have been made to believe that they didn't have a "live" baby? This definitely could be done with drugs and has been possible for the last century.  Could this be why family and friends "insist" that Jean didn't have a baby "a least not by Howard" (Now ain't that an intriguing comment?")  Doctors please free to comment here!

Another favorite method is detailed in Noah's book.  He describes an underage girl who had sex with Howard for years and ended up pregnant.  They married her off to a young man and sent them with a money gift to live in a foreign country.  God that sounds like Faith Dorn (went to Italy).  Maybe some of Noah's family still has his notes and can tell us the name. The baby would have a very real DNA claim it would appear. 


Is it possible that Jean, Terry and S______were all drugged and lied to cover up the viable live births.  Is it possible that Jean ACTUALLY BELIEVED that she hadn't had a  "live"child by Howard when she really did but it was taken away before she woke up (a witness remembers her lying with her face to the wall and not moving)? Meanwhile could the baby/s have been spirited away to other locals???  Just an intriguing theory that has popped it's head up too often to ignore! Hmmmmm!

The Legal Games People Play: Kurth Andrews Postulate

Now we know that Will Lummis worked at Kurth Andrews before hitting the relational jackpot, so the question begs, "What might be the Kurth Andrews strategy at the present."  Below are some schemes that seem to have some legs, and might be part of their strategy to maximize their client's profits and minimize the damage to their firm if it turns out that the heir was know but subverted.

1.  Try to manufacture a start date for one of the various statutes of limitations that might apply to the above scenarios.   a.  Knowledge of heirship:  Put an item (such as a personal possession) known to belong to Howard or Jean in the possession of the heir and then get them to sell it to someone.  This establishes that (in the setup) the heir would have definite knowledge of his/her claim at this point and start the statute of limitations on filing the claim (this was actually tried recently by a lawyer trying to subvert a heirship claim). More later: this is a draft! Not in final form.

Contact Information:

Dear Friends:

There have been some obvious issues with someone trying to shut down this blog.  People with billions of dollars of investment in technology stand to lose that money if we prove genetic heritage to others.  There have also been various crimes committed that genetic proof would reveal the motives of certain rich persons to pay others to commit crimes.


Here are some email addressees that you can use to contact me.  HowardHughesDNA@gmail.com,  HowardRHughesDNA@yahoo.com .  A friend uses SDBoxNumber47@gmail.com.  Geoff Schumacher's Howard Hughes blog has pretty much shut down. He is closely associated with Paul Winn, who gets pretty irate if someone float any theory other than his! He WAS there but that doesn't mean he knows EVERYTHING! Also Mr. Schumacher has activated censorship on his blog so that any post that doesn't kiss up to Mr. Winn's approval, doesn't get posted.  I will be opening at least a dozen other blogs you may contact me through, and will post them on here as possible.  You will always be able to search the internet for "Children of Howard Hughes", "son of Howard Hughes" or similar terms and find us somewhere.  If I survive, this collection of DNA WILL be finalized and we will know the proof. Please help in any way you can. The principles involved are not being cooperative so if you know, work with, work for, or have frequent contact with any of the following people, please contact us, we need your help collecting their DNA.  Please remember that "taking" DNA without consent is illegal. However, retrieving an item (straw, napkin, etc) that has been discarded with DNA on it is not!

Shirley Cook, Carlsbad CA; Will Lummis,  End of Post Oak Place Drive, Room 227, Houston TX, Fred Lummis, Post Oak Place, or 600 Travis Street, Houston Texas;  Kurth Andrews 42ed floor, 600 Travis Street, Houston, Texas;  E  J Brandreth,  San Diego, CA. 

Mr. Ackerman: activist investor: People if you want to get anything out of this: speak up!

There are those who not only want to prove they are kin to Howard but also to get the money they should have inherited, should their DNA validated. I would advise all of them to GET OFF the POT and get on the ball with the DNA testing!  Why?? Because all the remaining assets that you might be able to lay a claim to are about to be lumped into hedge fund control.  These funds could disappear overnight.

Lummis relatives in Houston need to submit their DNA, as insurance against any claims in complicity that may well occur in the future.  My investigation pardners need to get on the move. 

We have investigation pardners in several parts of the US testing literally dozens of Hughes DNA sources to dig up verifiable DNA; you need to redouble your efforts, or as Howard was wont to say, "make this effort far beyond any previous".  General Growth intends to lump all it's  less desirable assets (I would term them "toxic") into a separate company to be run by hedge fund investor Ackerman.  This is a way to isolate themselves from future claims and is a manner of corporate "shuffling".  I won't go into who or what liability they are trying to get away from, but look for Mr. Ackerman to quickly package the portfolio and give the problem to investors. A chain of "innocent purchasers for value" makes later recovery very difficult.

This website operator however, is more interested in the truth, than in money and will continue this investigation to it's conclusion.  When all the DNA is collected together and then sorted out rather than any particular position or argument, we will know the truth about all the various stories! 

However we realize that as the bible says, "Money gets a response in all things", and there are rewards here for those who work and provide the proof!  A word to the wise to those however, get busy!

Mission Impossible Assignment: to All Citzens of the United States: Can you help?

Dear fellow Americans: 
Here is your assignment if you chose to accept it:
Job:  Get some Howard Hughes, and possible mothers DNAs to compare to possible childern.
Range of difficulty: Impossible to simple. If treated with bleach or ash the sample is very hard to test.
Sources: Any genetic relative of Howard Hughes: To compare to male childern it must be a nuclear DNA test. Any genetic relative of a prospective mother.  Can be mitochondral or neclear Test (ask lab).

Suggested approaches: Best: Just ask them for a swab, inside of 
                                        mouth, most use a polyester swab. Or 
                                        better yet, if you are the relative and 
                                        you take your own DNA or go  to the
                                        lab to be swabbed or have a tech
                                        come to your house (Usually about 
                                        $50 in big cities, more with greater 
                                        travel, If you fly in a specialty 
                                        scientist from west to east coast, 
                                        it could cost $3000).


                                   Better:  Get a direct DNA sample from
                                   blood,salavia, back of licked stamp 
                                   or licked envelope flap, Hair from 
                                   comb/brush etc that still has follicles 
                                   still attached. Copious oral, vaginal 
                                   or semen secretions directly from 
                                   the source (process as below).

                                   Good:  DNA sample from a object that has
                                   been used extensively by the subject in
                                   the past, such as a hat band that has
                                   been sweated onto, a pair of old 
                                   underwear/clothes that has dried and
                                   not been washed with dried secretions 
                                   still intact (got Bill Clinton, should get 
                                   Howard). 
                
                                   Fair: Old letters with smuges, maps or 
                                   technical drawings that have  been
                                   handled by the subject and/or 
                                   sweated on extensively.

Warnings: This is NOT legal advice, if you have a doubt ask a lawyer. Check the laws concerning genetic sampling in your state before doing so. When in doubt; DON'T is the word here.  Of course if it's YOUR DNA, you may do what you like.  Taking samples directly from the subject without their permission is ILLEGAL.  Stalking and harassing a subject is ILLEGAL.  Be patient, let them come to you and use the opportune LEGAL moment.  Don't take a chance of getting yourself in trouble.  If you have reason to think the subject will refuse (Peters and Lummis family members likely will), then  it probably is not smart to even ask, just wait  and if they throw away/abandon an object that has their DNA on it (straw from drink, cigarette, hotel sheets,  spit cast onto a public area, napkin, with nasal secretions on it, etc and then retrieve it from the throw away place (trash can etc).  Handle straws with one finger on each end if possible, dry and bag as above. 

Suggestion: Carry a CLEAN plastic, latex or rubber glove in a baggie in your pocket along with a few swabs in a separate baggie (to swab secretions that you can't get in bag (spit, slavia etc: carefully air dry before putting into zip bag) . Use caution to not touch the fingers or palm of the glove when putting it on, retrieve the sample and put in the plastic bag, LEAVE THE BAG OPEN TILL THE SAMPLE DRIES.  Then seal the sample and send it to the lab.  If you don't have a glove/baggie handy pick it up by a CLEAN/DRY corner and wrap in a clean dry object (napkin/towel/etc). After drying, carefully deposit in a clean plastic zip bag and seal with a little air as possible and send to lab. Ask simply for a genetic paternity profile on the sample.  It could be mitochondrial or nuclear depending on the male or female prospective heritage (ask lab).  Make SURE the lab knows you want an analysis PRINTOUT that can be compared to DNA posted on the website. 

Not Necessary but  Good Insurance:  If you have a second sample you might dry it completely (keep it secret that you have a second sample), seal in a plastic bag/ label and stash in the freezer or other cold spot  for future reference, that way you have a back up if the lab loses or mixes your sample up (it happens).  Also you have proof for any future claim for reward as to who and where the sample was associated. 

A PLEA to Relatives:  If you are a possible DNA subject for testing to Howard, Jean or another possible mother, would you PLEASE be tested VOLUNTARILY and settle this issue.  The object here is to solve an ongoing mystery as it is rumored that two reporters (Walter Whinchell and Hedda Hooper) both found out about a son of Howard and Jean and reported on it. They were hushed up somehow (the report wasn't withdrawn that we know of), but Jean and Howard are long gone and the possible injustice here is to their son/s or daughter/s who have been left out of the birthright processes.  You could be the hero who rights a decades long injustice through a little bit of spit!!!

Consider: History will not look upon any favorably if this is discovered by another means (new technology is advancing daily in DNA testing; who knows what will be possible) and they were exposed as keeping mum for reputation, misguided patriotism, self incrimination and/or monetary reasons.  A reputation is not worth wronging the helpless and poor.  Isn't it worth a simple mouth swab on the CHANCE that you could solve this???  This plea will be posted on all new posts so that any relative that sees this blog will be notified.  Also, the public posting of your paternal/maternal DNA could even solve mysteries for you own childern, grandchildern or great grandchildern far into the future.  Isn't it selfish to take a code to the grave with you that could break this cypher??

This message will not SELF destruct: But there are interests with billions of dollars who will likely destroy it if they can. Please don't let them!!! Pressure will be leveled on google from many sources to pull this blog. Any question or help you need, just ask, if it's sensitive email HowardHughesDNA@gmail.com and if it's top secret don't put it in email, only confide to someone in person!

OMG!!! The genie may be out of the bottle!!!

Let me say up front that I am NOT an expert on DNA  (or spelling, please note my mistakes and they'll be corrected) but I have had a few classes on attendant subjects.  Any DNA scientists or other tech experts are welcome to  review this blog and give their input to correct any possible errors.   Why Maury didn't think of this first is beyond me!!!  I'm hoping someone will post a chart of how to compare home profiles to the posted ones so people don't have to hire experts  initially for the comparison.
That said, the talent to corral seemingly inconsequential trivia into a cogent theory of operation is a family trait. Lying in bed tonight I was thinking about the poster who put up DNA profiles and pondering possible outcomes!. And simply stated: if any of these profiles are for real, a massive uproar is ready to erupt! Let me explain.
1.Assuming one of the profiles posted (and I am hoping for many more) is a real child of Howard Hughes and whatever mother although Jean Peters descent would have boo coo better legal standing.  Then:
         Any person who holds a piece of Howard's past possessions (hats, flight suits, covers for the pilot's chair or the Hercules, letters with smudges, hat bands, extant evidence (any hospital who had him as a patient or the Harris county evidence locker who did his autopsy, etc) (please handle them like CSI because DNA and fingerprints are both important) can get a cheap DNA test to compare to the posted ones.  
(I intend to post the prices for the various tests at all the major labs in the US as soon as I have them compiled). I anyone has a small comparison chart (like lower my bills dot com) please post it. Paternity and maternity tests are all that are needed.    Any person who is a descendant or kin of Howard, Terry, Jean, Annette Gano Lummus, Will Lummis, both Fred Lummis',Howard's Dad, Howard's uncle who was a Hollywood writer,Howard's grandpa,etc, can call a DNA lab and explain the situation and ask if a test is feasible   Remember it should be half the price of the paternity test because you're only having one person tested (there are a lot of fly by night offices that charge you 4 or 5 times what the big labs do and just send the sample to them anyway so negotiate vigorously). 
          Now here's where my musings got funky!!! What are the possible uses of a positive result??? In other words, after one gets a Howard or Jean DNA match that is a definite positive, now what?
                                   1.  Contact this blog and get in touch with whatever posters' DNA is up here (not a bad strategy). You could then have possible cause to file for an injunction to halt an further payout of the Hughes trust (some think 2.5 billion to be paid in Sept 2010) and ask to have a new administrator named. 
                                    2. Contact number 1 above, also law enforcement and give both all your information. (a highly recommended strategy, given all the stories of murder attempts on some blogs.)
                                    3.  Contact the media and give them the story; and make everyone in this unhappy but make Linsay Lohan extremely happy because the media wouldn't pay any attention to her troubles for the next 5 years. (Not recommended but an intriguing (except by stars who have a negative publicity problem) possibility). 
                                     4.  Now this is only in here, not as a suggestion but as an obvious thought that would occur to the more nefarious of our population.  (Any real analysis of a situation must consider the unseemly also)  Contact the present heirs with a suggestion of a "deal". (EXTREMELY BAD IDEA FOR ALL THE OBVIOUS REASONS).  The danger level to your freedom and possibly worse is much too high. (Do you really want to give people this powerful a reason to desire you gone?)
                                    5. Readers will also probably have logical uses of their own. Post them with your permission for use and I'll add them to the list.
                              
Given the exponential increase in the numbers of people who could and probably will become involved now, all five of the above could happen, MULTIPLE TIMES!    Now do you see what I mean by the GENIE IS OUT OF THE BOTTLE?   

Ground rules:  Any contact with this blog will be open to any law enforcement with a legitimate inquiry!  I will protect your identity, even going to jail for you if you might be endangered. But, IF you are trying to play games, blackmail, or get info on the personal affairs of posters, creator or heirs, you will be reported and your postings will be deleted.  In advance, to the fellow from the midwest who hears Howard's broadcast through his teeth, you will be removed from this blog immediately.   Rude and crude posts will also be removed (Scott Harold or any other obscene identities dreamed up by "the great one" will be deleted immediately).  Others; if you have a theory, present it as a theory, not as a fact, otherwise you may well be deleted.

Why try to match DNA now?

Because it just simply won't go away. I have heard so many stories that I decided there was only one course to solve this dilemma. Post DNA. 

Now we know that the Will Lummis settled with several claimants who claimed to be married to Howard etc but if someone claims to be a child of Howard, how can they proceed?? I can tell you now that the Hughes relatives in Houston are not likely to cooperate much. A legitimate child showing up now would throw an awful wrench into the works of the Summerlin settlement (some estimate 2.5 billion dollars).

Could this benefit the Lummis etc heirs?
Quite possibly!  From what I can read, General Growth has them on the ground gasping for air and is proceeding to strangle them and will leave them with very little in the final Summerlin payout.  Any legitimate heir would likely come from a much poorer background and be very grateful of being helped by powerful people like the Lummis'.  If the DNA were matched to both Jean and Howard, then the heir would be in a position to claim "theft by unlawful taking and a multitude of other wrongs."  

A prenegotiated settlement with the two heir groups could result in the court awarding the entire residual Summerlin property to the newly discovered heir.  Since the previous heirs would have helped, it is resonable to beleive that there would be plenty for all.  Since stolen property is still the property of the original owner, the court would likely remove any title from General Growth!  Of course this is all supposition based on a positive DNA test from both the Peters and the Hughes sides.  What's the likely hood of that happening.  About as likely as the earth's atmosphere shrinking, I'd say!  (look that one up).

Purpose of this Blog

The purpose of this blog is to give anyone who thinks they may be a child of Howard Hughes or/and one of his many wives/girlfriends a place to submit their ideas and proof. It is hoped that these persons will get their DNA tested and than post it here so that possible relatives who have the other side of the DNA (such as the Lummis, Gano, Hughes and Peters families) will then get their DNA tested to compare with the posted DNA. This is meant to be used by,
1. Family members, relatives or investigators.
2. Prosecutors in trying to establish cases.
3. Policemen in trying to find proof in various actions.
4. News media in trying to report the truth.


Please be aware that if you post your DNA on here, it will be public knowledge. You may email me at howardhughesdna@gmail.com.  I will not reveal any information you send unless you are doing something illegal or shady.  Be aware that email is reported to be routinely hacked, (fyi gmail is reported to be a little harder to hack) by law enforcement (thanks to the patriot act) and hackers, so be cautious (some emails have urls embedded and can routinely be tracked by the public to the office or url it was sent from) with what you send over the internet.  Be assured that at present it appears that paternity, maternity and kinship testing has VERY little that can be used by insurance companies to discriminate against you. A certified tester told me that the markers are a world unto themselves and aren't used for disease testing.